The errors in Crime Time with Allison Hope Weiner

Crime Time with Allison Hope Wiener recently published a new video with guest Jim Clemente providing commentary on the Knox case. After their last show I pointed out many errors made by Clemente and offered to provide Crime Time and Wiener with research detailing the errors with citations to relevant documents. Wiener declined to take me up on my offer. Wiener and Clemente have produced yet another show full of errors. Below I detail some of the most blatant errors in their latest show.

Wiener started out the show by commenting on the Twitter conversations and feedback she received about her last show.

Allison: Most of [twitter] is completely not constructive, not intelligent, not based in facts. I just have to say most these tweets are just ad hominem attacks.

clemente personal attacksLike Jim Clemente’s, perhaps? Clemente provides multiple examples of ad hominem attacks, as seen in the graphic to the right. Wiener has thus far not condemned any of Clemente’s documented ad hominem attacks.

Clemente and Wiener get down to business spinning the Knox case to argue for her defense.

Allison: After holding [Knox] without any kind of preservation of her rights.

Knox was not being “held” during her questioning; she showed up unexpectedly at the station and started talking to police in the hallway (Knox, Waiting to be Heard, p107) , then moved into a room as Knox had been talking about possible people involved in the crime (Knox, p108).

Knox placed herself at the scene of the crime in her signed statements of 145am and 545 am (Knox, p118 & p122). The Italian supreme court ruled the first signed statement could not be used against her for the murder charge, thus actually upholding Knox’s rights as a witness: “Because there is one transcript which was declared inadmissible and the other admissible against others but not against Amanda. ” (Knox’s lawyer Dalla Vedova, Knox trial testimony)

Jim Clemente: The knife that Rudy Guede owned was a pocket knife with no hilt, and so when you stab somebody with it, his hand slipped down to the knife, and that’s how he cut it. We see that thousands and thousands of knife assault cases.

There is no evidence Guede was found with a pocket knife- it was Sollecito who had two pocket knifes confiscated from him and tested (Massei; Stefanoni court testimony).

Clemente must be referring to an incident where Guede was found in a kindergarten in Milan. Guede was found with a 40cm (16 in) kitchen knife he took from the kindergarten (The Borsini-Belardi Sentencing Report, P11; Massei, p45). The prosecution argues only one wound is compatible with a large kitchen knife; the wound on the neck that ultimately killed Meredith. The defense contends that a smaller penknife made all of the wounds. If you accept the defense’s argument, then Guede was NOT found with a knife that was compatible with the wounds. Clemente’s claim that the knife Guede was found with in the kindergarten is compatible with the wounds on Meredith is in conflict with Knox and Sollecito’s defense.

Jim: Nobody will answer the question how did Raffaele get two high-priced lawyers to travel to Germany to represent him before the Perugian cops got there. How did that happen? Who knew that he was there? Who would actually want him to be represented so that he wouldn’t talk to anybody, make any statements that didn’t coincide with the prosecutor’s case?

Clemente obviously doesn’t mean to be so blatantly wrong about the evidence to say that Sollecito ran to Germany, so we’ll set that one aside.  Guede (not Sollecito) was arrested in Germany on Nov 20th, but not extradited back to Italy until December 6th.  His arrest on the 20th was announced worldwide in the media.  The documentary “Is Amanda Knox Guilty?” had an interview with Guede’s lawyer where the lawyer describes why he went up to Germany to represent Guede. Clemente should do his research before engaging in such hyperbole about the case.

Jim (talking about the bra clasp): The DNA expert couldn’t find his DNA on it. She blew it up and blew it up and blew it up.

Clemente is confusing the defense arguments against the bra clasp with the defense arguments against Meredith’s DNA on the knife.  The bra clasp evidence is not LCN DNA (Massei).

Allison: Spare us all. We don’t really want to hear about how other people agree with that evidence.

As evidenced by this recent thread, Crime Time also doesn’t want to hear about the errors they publish on their own show.

Jim Clemente: People don’t understand the job of the defense attorney. The defense attorney is to help his own client, period. The fact that Raffaele is now separating defense from Amanda seems to be a strategy here.

Clemente seems to be arguing that defense attorneys will say anything to get their clients free. Justification for lying from a former FBI man? Really?

Jim Clemente (on what Knox was told during the questioning): Raffaele is testifying that you did it.

Clemente is wrong again. Knox was not told Sollecito “is testifying that you did it,” she was told  “‘he’s taken away your alibi'”(Knox, WTBH, p114).

Jim Clemente: People say that she was only questioned for two hours and they wrote, the interpreter came. Two hours is when she got, she signed this thing. But they waited 10 hours, or eight hours at least, before they called in the interpreter. They think “no its not in the file.” Amanda tells us she got there 1030 and left at 630. So there was a long time that went by. Anybody can write a different time on that damn statement. It doesn’t make it when it’s actually happen.

This is the most laughable claim of Clemente’s, that an interpreter wasn’t called for 8 hours. Knox doesn’t support Clemente’s claim: “The interpreter […] arrived at about 12:30 am” (Knox, WTBH, p113). None of the Knox advocates have stood by Clemente’s claim; Weiner also has declined to stand by Clemente’s statement.

Allison: And given the behavior in this case, they haven’t really proven themselves, the Italian police, or the Italian courts to be particularly trust worthy, so we can infer that most of this case is probably not trustworthy. If you see somebody lying in one segment of the case, and denying somebody’s rights in one segment of the case, what would stop them from changing the time.

Here, Weiner veers completely into conspiracy theory territory by alleging corruption of both the Italian police and courts… to justify an allegation of changing time on a document. This allegation of changing the time the interpreter was present Knox herself doesn’t even support.

Jim Clemente: People keep bringing up that Amanda Knox lied. Well if Amanda Knox lied about using marijuana, it’s because she didn’t want to admit doing something that’s a crime. That’s typical. And any time when a law enforcement officer, and experienced law enforcement officer does an interrogation like that they can expect those kinds of things.

Is a former FBI man actually JUSTIFYING lying to police during a murder investigation? Really? And did Clemente REALLY just say that if Knox lied to police “its because she didn’t want to admit doing something that’s a crime”?

Jim Clemente: It doesn’t mean she’s guilty of murder. If she lied, if she lied to get, if she wrote that, if she signed that “statement” against Lumumba to get out of that interrogation, then that was a self-preservation move.

Here, surprisingly, Clemente agrees with the courts; Knox’s statement against Lumumba was a self-preservation move to get out of her questioning with the Perugian police.

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Amanda Knox’s “experts” disagree on nature of evidence

Knox’s three “experts” fundamentally disagree on the nature of the evidence against Knox. It seems that no stone will be left unturned as her supporters continue to blame everyone and everything for Knox’s woes.

Knox has had a number of “experts” come to her defense, including two former FBI agents and a DNA scientist. These three all argue for Knox’s innocence, despite having fundamentally different views on the nature of the evidence against Knox.

Greg Hampikian is the director of the Idaho Innocence Project. He penned a letter to the Italian courts questioning the DNA used to convict Knox. Though Hampikian had no formal role in Knox’s defense, he conducted multiple interviews in the US where it was advertised that he was in part responsible for Knox’s release. He also frequently informed people he ‘knew what happened.’ Hampikian believes the evidence was collected well, but the investigator used shakier evidence in the case against Knox. This is a quote from a CNN article that interviewed Hampikian:

GRIFFIN: Greg Hampikian is a forensic scientist and director of Idaho’s Innocence Project. He also was working with the Knox defense team. He says Italian investigators did a good job processing the crime scene, collected excellent evidence, but clung to shakier evidence that proved their theory, a classic error, says Hampikian

Steve Moore is a former FBI agent who has been one of Knox’s strongest advocates. His view on the evidence completely counters Dr. Hampikian’s assessment of the evidence. In written testimony to a subcommittee of the House of Representatives in congress, Moore charges that the evidence against Knox is fabricated:

In the Knox case, we had rooms full of tainted and fabricated evidence to argue.

Jim Clemente is a recent addition to the Knox camp. He has admitted to basing his judgment on looking at photos of the crime scene then talking to his buddy, Steve Moore. Oddly, though, for over a month now Jim Clemente has avoided saying whether he agrees with this buddy Moore regarding the evidence being fabricated. Clemente does believe that people (presumably officials in Italy) are lying about Knox’s involvement, but Clemente to this day hasn’t said he agrees with his buddy, Steve Moore.

 

Knox’s lawyers gave Lifetime seven days to respond

Knox’s lawyer Dalla Vedova as quoted in the UK Daily Mail:

‘In Italy a film or documentary cannot be made until the court has reached a definitive decision and we still have the appeal and the Supreme Court to come.

‘I have given Lifetime a week to get back to me. If after February 10th the film and trailer are still visible then we will begin legal proceedings because there is no way an appeal can be heard with this going on.’

Two sides to every story: Knox stepfather’s response to Lifetime film

In October 2010, Mellas is quoted by the West Seattle Herald as stating they had no intention of blocking the film

“Our lawyers have expressed that it is not the appropriate time to release a film, before the appeals process, but neither our lawyers nor we have said we would block the film,” said Mellas. “We have heard that the film’s producer said the film would not contain a verdict of innocence or guilt, and that it would allow the viewer to make his own decision.

“I have no criticism about making this film,” Mellas added. “Maybe they’re coming out with a story that will be good for Amanda. Lifetime has done a lot of good stories, with a platform of advocacy for wrongly accused prisoners. But I have never spoken with any of these people.”

Their position appears to have changed, now that they have seen the trailer. The UK’s Sun reports today that Amanda Knox’s stepfather wanted Hayden to meet with Amanda, and that they’ve formalized a complaint against Lifetime:

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Hayden Pannetiere belives Knox treated unjustly; giddy to play role

The trailer out now is truly despicable. Included in the trailer is a dramatization of the actual murder. The entire movie is a dramatization of an ongoing case;  and both families have decried the movie. Included in stills and in the trailer are many things that contradict the findings of the court or are just made up.
According to True Justice, Lifetime had previously issued a public statement that the film would not show the act, however they seem to have gone back on that.
UK’s Sun is reporting that Knox’s lawyers have sent a legal notice to Lifetime requesting them not to air or distribute the film.
Access Hollywood did an on-set interview with Hayden, where Hayden reveals her excitement to play Amanda and her motivation to play Amanda as “innocent” or “innocent in who she was” depending on the interview.
Access Hollywood host:
It was the type of role the 21 year old heros star was thrilled to get.
Hayden:

Twitter users & Sky Readers respond in disgust at Lifetime trailer

Readers on the Daily Mail article

responded to the news that Lifetime’s trailer includes recreated murder scenes. This is a section of the most frequently used worlds in the reader comments:

Twitter users agreed (usernames masked):

@———- The whole Kercher/Knox movie?! Extremely poor taste.

@mi———-: Disgusting. Amanda Knox: Meredith Kercher murder recreated for controversial TV movie

@th———-: Stunned & quite disgusted by the lack of understanding and empathy Hayden Panettiere has shown in interview to Meredith Kercher’s family.

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Lifetime trailer- the families respond

The recreated scenes of the murder released in the trailer for the Lifetime movie are getting press today.  Seattle site Kokomo News reports both families are upset, and adds

Meredith Kercher’s father, John Kercher, said the murder scenes are “absolutely horrific and I have asked and would hope the pictures are withdrawn,” according to a report in U.K.’s The Sun.

In a news irony, in the same article that The Sun reports on John Kercher’s request,  the tabloid newspaper reprints one of the most horrific scenes included in the trailer.

The Sun further reports Mr. Kercher as saying:

“It’s awful what these film people have done, your imagination runs riot as it is about what happened but to actually see it like this is very different and very distressing.

Kokomo News quotes the Knox family lawyer Carlo Della Vedova:

We find it very inopportune that a film is being made when the case is still active and an appeal’s taking place.